City Bible vs. Bob Jones
Posted on February 21st, 2006 by catalyst into the City Boobie Church category
A breakdown of City Bible Church versus Bob Jones University would probably be fun. However, it would also require a significant amount of work.
And I’m lazy.
So, let me just share this blog post with you.
Apparently, Bob Jones University is banning Starbucks from their campus because Starbucks supports gayness. (I don’t know if that’s a word, but I like it.) Starbucks shows their rabid support for the homosexual community by posting the following quote from Armistead Maupin on the back of their cup
"My only regret about being gay is that I repressed it for so long. I surrendered my youth to the people I feared when I could have been out there loving someone. Don’t make that mistake yourself. Life’s too damn short."
This does not concern me, since I drink Starbucks for it’s caffeine not its gayness.
But I imagine a church that spent a lot of time and money to make sure gay people couldn’t get married, well, I bet they’re conflicted.
(Hat Tip: www.andrewsullivan.com)
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February 21st, 2006 at 8:58 am
Interesting. BYU and CBC definitely have much in common. One story from my own experience: BT sent me to teach in another country at a school (allegedly Christian, but that’s a whole different story) owned and operated by their close counterparts/buddies. My first year there, the junior & high school text books were all Bob Jones. The texts were horrid in terms of pedagogy (i.e., approach to teaching & learning), but I taught with other books and with activities, mostly ignoring the Bob Jones texts. English was not the first language of these students, but Bob Jones used KING JAMES ENGLISH to teach English. One of the high school books even went as far as to say that one MUST use KJ English while praying in order to show proper reverence to God. How wacked is that?! Wacked in general, but especially because these kids were either Buddhist or Muslim. I used it as a teachable moment about talking with God, but it was my last staw with Bob Jones. When the school director asked me and another guy to design an actual curriculum, I told them I gladly would, as long as they would agree to toss all the Bob Jones texts. They agreed, so with great glee, I ensured that several rooms full of the texts were tossed and replaced with sound books. The rumor was that BT recommended the Bob Jones curriculum to my overseas school. I never verified that one, but it would make sense.
Anywho, the topic at hand, the Starbucks quote. Not shocking that BJU banned Starbucks over a homosexual-friendly quote. No matter how vehemently they insist it was due to poor customer service, that is dubious. Can you imagine sitting at Starbucks’ corporate office in Seattle, getting voice mails from BJU regarding this quote? I, for one, would surely be tempted to bury those messages in my to-do box in hopes of avoiding the homophobic ravings of the president of BJU.
Does Starbucks have an agenda? You bet, it’s making money, as all other corporations. Not a shocker. It has a diverse constituency, so likely has all kinds of various quotes on its cups. Christians are the only people truly capable of being free thinkers. Surely we have what it takes to use any such quote on a Starbucks cup as a teachable moment with our children?
If BJU only used the “proudly served Starbucks” cups on campus, not the cups with quotes, as used by real/actual Starbucks employees and stores, then their logic for banning Starbucks over cups with that quote that exist outside of their little cloister doesn’t make sense. I shouldn’t be surprised that BJU logic escapes me. Just like CBC logic.
Catalyst, I’m with you, I drink Starbucks for its coffee not its philosophies.
February 21st, 2006 at 9:49 am
I don’t know…
Whenever I read an article about a university that calls itself "BJU", I just kind of laugh quietly to myself and then move on…
BJU. Get it? BJ. U.
Too funny.
It’s kind of like the chuckle I had whenever I heard Frank talk about "City" Bible Church. Great choice for name when the CEO has a bit of a lisp.
:: giggle ::
February 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pm
Think of the gayness as the foam on your latte.
With a splash of hazelnut.
February 21st, 2006 at 1:43 pm
A party in your mouth, if you will.
February 21st, 2006 at 3:31 pm
Starbucks is to gayness as
Bob Jones is to pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
February 21st, 2006 at 4:20 pm
Because I do everything that my Starbucks cup tells me to.
February 21st, 2006 at 4:22 pm
And oh man, these comments are so incredibly terrible.. but funny. I’m laughing so hard.
February 21st, 2006 at 5:29 pm
I like Starbucks and Justin. So where does that leave me in the mix of things?
ah… I was afraid you’d say that.
February 22nd, 2006 at 6:54 am
I didn’t even consider being gay until I read the quote on my cup! Good job BJU, don’t allow this to happen to others in your community. I have a friend who is black now because he drank from a Starbuck’s cup with a Mya Angalou quote on it…tragic, eh?
February 22nd, 2006 at 2:33 pm
BJU will be gone soon and there is hope in that. They will either learn to spread love or they will become irrellevent. This small issue is just the beginning of the exposure that institutions like these will face. If one was to go to 10 - 20 different BJU/CBC style churchs and record what the pastors said to they’re congregation, I think we would see a huge backlash from the general public. The end is coming for these fanatical groups preaching hate and division. Pat Robertson was running for President in the 80’s and now his audience is just a dwindling group of ppl on medicare and a sub-group of fanatics. If christianity is not seen as spreading love then it will be seen as spreading hate.
P.S. Starbucks coffee is rather tasteless and chawky. Now, their machiattos are great and warm and gay and I love them.
February 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pm
hey everyone,
I think catalyst just proved what a dumbass he can be.
CBC doesn’t oppose free speech, nor the right of a corporation to express in any legal way their opinion (giving money, or tithing if you please) about and to the homosexual community.
CBC doesn’t want homosexual marriages to happen. That’s called different.
“Do you see the difference? I see the difference!”
So if Starbiz-ucks wants to tithe to the gays, so be it. (It’s interesting to me that the world understands the importance of giving money to idealogies that they believe in, but you ignoramouses can’t see the forest for the trees)
blessings (financially, of course)
February 22nd, 2006 at 3:25 pm
FB,
You seem to be getting a little testy lately.
Blog got you down?
February 22nd, 2006 at 4:25 pm
I think financialblessings needs to take the “literal stick” out of his *ss.
IT’S A JOKE! FUNNY!
Sheesh. Humor is obviously not for everyone.
February 22nd, 2006 at 4:48 pm
hey fb!!!
putting your pee pee in a maucho mans poo poo is extremely funny. I can’t understand why a church of ppl would not want to stick their own pee pee’s in other ppls poo poo???
blessings (straight of course)