You might be a Dougie if…
Posted on February 24th, 2006 by catalyst into the Pastoral Staff categorySo my 20 year-old brother Joel is upset that he continually gets lumped in with JP and I with regards to this blog. He says he rarely reads the blog and only finds about 1/3 of the posts actually entertaining. But if he’s going to get blamed for the blog, then he wants to post something. And as usual, that posting is in reference to Doug Lasit.
So with apologies to Jeff Foxworthy, Joel has ripped off You Might Be a Redneck and instead offers,
You Might Be a Dougie If:
- You think the Three Wise Men are Grande, Tall, and Venti.
- You think WWJD stands for We Will Judge Dem.
- You ever upgraded your coffee for Christ.
- You think the French named their coins after Frank.
- Your favorite band is the Gen Unleashed Worship Band.
- You were in the room when they decided to to paint the boobs a silicone color.
- Your mom is the only reason you are married.
- You think the Rapture was the new name for CBC’s coffee shop.
- You voted for ATM’s in the church
Becuase I know Doug reads the blog, let me close by saying, "We kid because we care, we kid because we care."
February 24th, 2006 at 11:17 am
if you suck and you are a yes man.
February 24th, 2006 at 11:38 am
jesse im sorry i did this one with out you, but sometimes you just have to spread your wings and fly
February 24th, 2006 at 11:41 am
You might be a Dougie if you ever lied about waiting until your were married to kiss your wife.
February 24th, 2006 at 12:13 pm
Who are you kidding you don’t care.
February 24th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
I actually like Doug. He’s a nice guy. A bit over-ambitious, but hey.. that never hurt anyone at CBC, did it?
But really, I can add one:
You might be a Dougie if…
… you married into the pastorship.
February 24th, 2006 at 1:03 pm
Why is he a huge liar? You can’t just accuse someone of being a liar and have NO evidence or proof whatsoever.
At least the last anonymous poster had the balls to say he lied about kissing his wife.
February 24th, 2006 at 1:05 pm
Whoops. I meant to post this into this entry. Sorry about that.
I think it would be amusing to have fictitious “interviews” with different members of the leadeship staff at CBC.
Nothing “bad”.. but just enough reality to make it fun. Like this, for a starter:
Interview with Doug Lassit, by Anon:
Anon: So Doug, would you care to share your “secrets of success” with us? How did you make it into the Big Leagues at CBC?
Doug: Well, to be honest, it was nothing more then a lot of hard work. I went through the school of “hard knocks” for many years, and then attended Portland Bible College for 4 years to obtain my [insert name of whatever it’s called that they give you after 4 years here]. I also have extensive teaching experience at PBC, and have co-authored several books about leadership to “the gen” generation. My success is 100% built on dedication to gogly principles, a high work ethic, and my incredible drive.
Anon: Wow. It sure sounds like you worked pretty hard for your position of leadership at CBC.
Doug: I sure have.
Anon: So ah… you’re married to Donna WAGAR, right? The daughter of Bob and Sharon, who are both highly valued members of the leadership staff at CBC?
Doug: Yes, but that has nothing to do with the fact that I went from being an outsider who people had never heard of, to an insider who got invited to all the right social events at Bible Temple, after starting to date Donna.
Anon: Ummm… ok.. so it was a coincidence?
Doug: Yes. Absolutely. It was by my own steam that I got my job. It had nothing to do with the fact that I married into the church leadership family.. er.. I mean married into the Wagar family.
Anon: Oh, I see. Ummm… so is it really true that you did not kiss Donna until you were married?
Doug: :: throws hot starbucks coffee at Anon and walks off muttering something about “that damn blog”…. ::
——————
I’d love to see interviews with other members of the church leadership.
February 24th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
It’s all about Jesus, stupid
TAKE UP HIS CROSS DAILY AND FOLLOW ME.
Luke 9:23
You do not make your own cross, although unbelief is a master carpenter at cross-making; neither are you permitted to choose your own cross, although self-will wants to be lord and master. But your cross is prepared and appointed for you by divine love, and you must cheerfully accept it; you are to take up the cross as your chosen badge and burden, and not to stand complaining. This night Jesus bids you submit your shoulder to His easy yoke. Do not kick at it in petulance, or trample on it in pride, or fall under it in despair, or run away from it in fear, but take it up like a true follower of Jesus. Jesus was a cross-bearer; He leads the way in the path of sorrow. Surely you could not desire a better guide! And if He carried a cross, what nobler burden would you desire? The Via Crucis is the way of safety; fear not to tread its thorny paths. Beloved, the cross is not made of feathers or lined with velvet; it is heavy and galling to disobedient shoulders; but it is not an iron cross, though your fears have painted it with iron colors; it is a wooden cross, and a man can carry it, for the Man of Sorrows tried the load. Take up your cross, and by the power of the Spirit of God you will soon be so in love with it that like Moses you would not exchange the reproach of Christ for all the treasures of Egypt. Remember that Jesus carried it; remember that it will soon be followed by the crown, and the thought of the coming weight of glory will greatly lighten the present heaviness of trouble. May the Lord help you bow your spirit in submission to the divine will before you fall asleep tonight, so that waking with tomorrow’s sun, you may go forth to the day’s cross with the holy and submissive spirit that is fitting for a follower of the Crucified.
February 24th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Doug ripped off his “I didn’t kiss my wife until we were married” bit from Wendall Smith, who Doug may have had as a youth pastor at one point, or at least heard as a camp speaker. Who knows who Wendall got it from.
February 24th, 2006 at 1:36 pm
ROFLMAO!
February 24th, 2006 at 2:52 pm
my cross is this beer i jus chugged
February 24th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
the only reason they can get through dating with out choken out a load oh i’m sorry that was inapproiate i mean courtship is cause they get married after there first blind date setup by there mother
February 24th, 2006 at 3:52 pm
Knock Knock
Who’s there !
Doug !
Doug who ?
Doug good deeds, tithe and marry into leadership and you’ll go to heaven !
February 24th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
A man has been in business for many, many years and the business is going down the drain. He is seriously contemplating suicide and he doesn’t know what to do.
He goes to City Bible to seek advice. He tells the pastor about all of his problems in the business and asks the pastor what he should do.
The pastor says “Take a beach chair and a Bible and put them in your car and drive down to the edge of the ocean. Go to the water’s edge. Take the beach chair out of the car, sit on it and take the Bible out and open it up. The wind will riffle the pages for a while and eventually the Bible will stay open at a particular page. Read the first words your eyes fall on and they will tell you what to do.”
The man does as he is told. He places a beach chair and a Bible in his car and drives down to the beach. He sits on the chair at the water’s edge and opens the bible. The wind riffles the pages of the Bible and then stops at a particular page. He looks down at the Bible and his eyes fall on words which tell him what he has to do.
Three months later the man and his family come back to City Bible.
The man is wearing a $1,000 Italian suit, The wife is all decked out with a full-length mink coat and the child is dressed in beautiful silk. The man hands the pastor a thick envelope full of money and tells him that he wants to tithe to City Bible in order to thank the pastor for his wonderful advice.
The pastor is delighted. He recognizes the man and asks him what words in the Bible brought this good fortune to him.
The man replies: “Chapter 11.”
February 24th, 2006 at 8:22 pm
You know your a Mortin if …
10. You think WWJD stands for what would Justin do
9. You traded Christ for beer
8.Your mom is the only one one you would marry
7. You there is a new religion called Mortinism
6.Your favorite band is Godsmack
5. Your only claim to fame is a blog site thats anti CBC ( which you secretly admire and respect)
4. Your a yes man (or in Jiminys case) woman
3. You think the bible was the Sunday comics from 2 milliniams ago
2. Your first in line to get a stamp imbedded on your forehead
1. You think your funny
February 24th, 2006 at 9:01 pm
Anon 8:22pm, I count ELEVEN errors in your message. If you’re going to mock intelligently, learn how to use the English language. Otherwise, you just look like an idiot.
February 24th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
You said I was trying to be intelligent.
February 24th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
I count 13 errors.
February 24th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
You know your a Mortin if …
11. Your a grammer freak.
February 24th, 2006 at 11:44 pm
12. You spend time on the internet looking at girls and call them coolers.
February 24th, 2006 at 11:48 pm
hey Reformed Pope,
I guess I’m testy because I can’t get a decent half-thought-through response from anyone. I guess I’m a little let down; It’s lonely at the top, and all you do is look down at the stragglers and shout profanities (oh and throw blessings at them–financially, of course)
I mean…did you read the posts after my last post? It was like JiminyCricket became anon and started posting intermittedly throughout the consumption of 8 quarter pounders with cheese. (She’s gotta be a fat chick, cuz most fat chicks are mad at the world and masculinity in general).
Eat up Jiminy…don’t forget to wipe that grease off the keyboard ya slob
February 25th, 2006 at 12:41 am
11:48 FB,
I’m a vegetarian with better things to do. Say something worth responding to, and I’ll give you a response. Otherwise, I’ve got solfege to practice, concerts to organize, rehearsals to attend, and tofu to marinate. Sorry….you’ll have to find another friend if you need a yes-man at your beck and call.
February 25th, 2006 at 12:49 am
…..and PS….I never thought I’d say this, but:
All this stuff about Doug seems a little harsh, really. Yes, he was a bit of a buffoon in my opinion, but who isn’t at times? I’ve definitely done my fair share of making fun of him, too….but some of the comments here seem to have crossed the line from funny to just mean. However, I was a good little girl back in the day, so I wasn’t even on his radar, and I’m willing to bet that anyone who had closer dealings with Doug has more reason to be unhappy with him. But, at the same time, I think it’s a little strange that everyone else’s dirt on him would be roughly the same as mine if I took the time to make a list. None of it’s really SO damning if you think about it — though, like I said, I don’t doubt there’s other stuff behind it for the people making the comments.
February 25th, 2006 at 2:57 am
How can you talk trash about a blog that you read everyday and comment on.
February 25th, 2006 at 6:52 am
Jiminy said:
“I’m a vegetarian with better things to do. Say something worth responding to, and I’ll give you a response”
Jim, Is this not a response? If you really did have somthing better to do with your time then you would not have made a comment. I think it is safe to say that you really dont have anything better to do with your time and therefor if you lied about having something better to do then why would’nt you lie about your cheese burger habbit.
Oh and Jiminy just a heads up, since you seem to take so much joy in contradicting people and pointing out every little error they make, weather its grammer, spelling or bible knowlege you always seem to be right there to make fun/point out peoples mistakes. Sorry most of us reallly do have somthing better to do than proof reading every post we make. I can just see you sitting at your desk, cheese burger in one hand and thesourus in the other, laughing when you have found the perfect smart a!% word to use; with mayo and mustard on the side of your cheek.
Stop being a jerk if you do not like personal attacks.
Brandon
February 25th, 2006 at 8:30 am
MST,
While I understand why a person would take up another’s offense if they had a good reason, I don’t reallt understand why you’re saying all this to me right now.
I said I had better things to do than reply to FB’s “last comment” that he referred to in his commentary on this thread. I didn’t reply to said comment, so yes, indeed, I did have better things to do. Semantics, I know, but still, if you’re going to call me a liar, I think semantics are worth talking about.
So, since when is it a crime to write something well? Why should I be apologizing to you for the fact that I choose to use good grammar in my postings. I don’t recollect giving you a hard time for your grammar one way or the other (and if I did, I apologize….though I will say that grammar rules exist to help people communicate more clearly, and it is easier to understand something that is written well). And, as far as contradiction goes, well, it seems I just can’t get it right for you. You don’t like it if I agree with the Mortons (that makes me a yes-man in your book, if I remember correctly), you don’t like it if I disagree with them (as I did on this thread, because that means I’m a “jerk”), you don’t like it when I disagree with you in favor of agreeing with Scripture. I don’t think it’s my opinions that you’re really dealing with….you’re making this something personal, and it’s not. This is all completely artificial, and while you might be able to pick me out of a police line-up because you’ve looked at my blog, you have no clue what I’m actually like as a person. And, at the same time, I don’t know what you’re like. Maybe if we met in person, we’d be best friends….who knows?
For me, this is a forum, a place to express views — not a place to make judgments about parts of people’s lives that I have no experience with or access to. So, please, if you want to talk about something relevant, let’s talk. I make time for that because I think it’s valuable. But, this is about the bazillionth time I’ve said on this blog that I’m sick of the personal attacks that (presumably) stem from some phobia or distaste for intelligent, well-educated, assertive people (and women in particular), which you seem to assume I am. That sort of thing is really NOT my problem….it’s yours. If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
February 25th, 2006 at 10:36 am
I found these comments to be really funny. I don’t think they are entirely based on facts, but they are funny anyway.
I don’t think that CBC has figured out that Doug is one of the biggest reasons that people leave there. Every time I run into someone that used to go to the youth group they all say the same thing about Doug (and I wasn’t asking to know). The biggest complaint is that he makes promises he never keeps!
February 25th, 2006 at 11:13 am
You know your a Mortin if …
13. Your handle is JiminyCricket.
p.s. Please check my grammar
February 25th, 2006 at 11:19 am
FYI…. That last post was not from masterstoryteller
February 25th, 2006 at 11:31 am
Morton not Mortin
February 25th, 2006 at 11:37 am
Thank you fedup. Is the t silent
February 25th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Well back to this Doug issue. I will say this, he is good at what he does. He is currently in charge of most ministries at City Bible Church. He is in charge of kids ministry, Jr. High, High School, College, Young Adult Group, and Music Ministry. So every person from birth to about 33 at City Bible is under the charge of Doug Lasit. Un-freakin believable!!!!! His right hand man, Rich Miller, has just been given the position of Director of Student Services at PBC (CBC getting rid of Larry Henderson- spinning it with a new job for him), meaning that he now has his hands even more in the college. He has done a great job of accumulating power at this church. I find it interesting that someone so insecure has been able to hoodwink PF to give him all this power. What qualifications does he have to lead the music ministry? He married a worship leader- maybe that is how I will end up gaining power at this CBC!!! So if there are any worship leaders out there that would like to climb the corporate ladder, please leave me a post and we can be partners together!
Hope everyone is doing well!
February 25th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
I’ll take the money. The “power” is for little stumps like Dougie.
P.S. Has Dougie had his feet washed by PF yet? I mean, does anyone think they do practice runs on the weekends? PF has alot of reasons to retire.
February 25th, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Wow! Christ for beer–really? That cuts deaplee
February 25th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
Always remember this. Marry for power, not love… because with love, you can only control one person but with power you can control anyone and anything you want.
February 25th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Would anyone here mind giving their real names and addresses and places of employment so that we can call your coworkers and find out some things that we can make fun of about you. And if you wouldn’t mind being candid about your faults we would love to hear it . If any of you are married we would also like to get your spouses name so we can make fun of them as well.
Thank you in advance
February 25th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
We marry for many, different reasons but the most popular reason for marrying remains that we marry for the myth of romantic love and expect it to last, and when it doesn’t, we are crushed. The greater our expectations - the bigger our disappointments. So why marry, at all, when up ahead is disappointment and pain?
I married because even though I knew that it might not last, I at least will have known that once upon a time, I loved deeply enough to have been willing to risk everything in my life and because in the end, it doesn’t really matter anymore how long it lasted when I remember how good it was when it was good.
February 25th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
Wow everyone just turned into idiots on this post. I didn’t laugh at any of the comments.
Please make the blog funny again. Everyone stop being stupid. And if you’re really that stupid that you actually wrote any of those comments that I just read…. then please just go live in the zoo. Kthxbye.
February 25th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
was that the final gong?
kthxbye
February 25th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
“Doug married for power and not love” that is some of the lowest bulllshit to come out of this blog.
February 25th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
If anyone here has had some success at in a leadership at their local church we would live to hear about it so that we can tear you down.
February 25th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
There’s are two kinds of funny. “Funny Wierd” and “Funny ha-ha.”
For instance, “Funny Weird” is the old adage that goes “If Denny’s is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, why are there locks on the doors?”
“Funny ha-ha” is “Three cowboys walked into a bar. The fourth one ducked.”
One of my favorite funny jokes goes like this:
ME: Ask me if i’m a trucker.
YOU: Are you a trucker? ME: No!
And that’s the joke. THAT is funny!
And what is “not funny”? “Not funny” is Bob Saget. “Not funny” is Jerry Lewis (except in France, which is “Funny Wierd”) “Not funny” is when I unintentionally have toilet paper stuck to the bottom of my shoe.
Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? …now that’s funny! Why? Because it was unexpected. Things can be “funny ha-ha” or “funny weird,” but they aren’t actually “funny.” Funny is when there is a perceived difference by the interpreter between what is expected and what actually occurs, or when the interpreter knows more than is revealed and that knowledge contributes to there being a discrepancy between what is stated and what is perceived fact.
Example: Q: How did the chicken cross the road?
A: Help! I’m trapped in a drum!
See? That was neither ha-ha or weird, yet it was still unbelievably funny.
By actually writing this, and it may be not being funny at all, makes it funny because it is unexpected. Funnyness, or humor, arises out of boredom. It is a release from the inexorable pull of banality.
Laughter is not required, in fact true humor is so sharp and delves so deep into the human soul that you cry, rather than laugh.
Example: Q: Where is there meaning in life?
A: I do not know. I do not know…….[fades into eternity]
See, there is a definite and very large disparity between how smart you seem when people are not paying attention to you and the actualality of the situation, that you are a dumb, ox-headed moron.
You want funny? Here is funny:
Here is a FUNNY joke:
What did the farmer say when he lost his tractor?
“Where’s my tractor?”
HAHAHA farm humor! If that wasn’t funny, you don’t know what is.
You want a joke? Here is one that will make you go mute…
Q: What did Sylvia Plath say when her husband ignored her?
A: “I am going to put my head in an oven.” Then she did for real.
DEATH. That is the final humor. So laugh at Family Matters reruns, because Urkel is both “funny ha-ha” and “funny weird,” while you still can.
February 25th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
I agree 100%. Boneheaded comments like that go unchecked all the time around here and it makes me want to puke. Especially when everyone freaks out when someone’s dandruff comes into question.
February 25th, 2006 at 2:12 pm
someone stop whoever that is…
February 25th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
not the one above this, but above that
February 25th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
My real name is Rachel Digby and I was a classmate of Donna. I have to say that everyone here sounds just jealous. She’s bright, compassionate and talented and was a great friend to me. Who cares why Doug married Donna? He was smart enough to know a great deal when he saw one. I can’t say the same for alot of other people I know. So, go ahead and make fun of me now that I gave my real name. I can take it.
February 25th, 2006 at 2:23 pm
Don’t worry. No-one makes fun of anyone here. You are safe now, Rachel. Welcome home.
February 25th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
You know your a Morton if…
14. Your jealous of Doug.
February 25th, 2006 at 3:36 pm
“He got a piece of ass that payed out, but he did it for a fruitless cause. He did it because it was easy. He did it because he likes to control others.”
Firstly, this comment above ought to be deleted.
Secondly, it’s the most crude, horrible post I have ever read.
Catalyst and Pope, I call you to accountability concerning posts like this. Be somewhat civilized and delete comments that are so slanderous and malicious; both of you guys are intelligent as well as fun-loving. There is no purpose to this type of low-blow. Even cage fighting has rules.
Thirdly, in regards to “let the blog be funny again”, here’s one for Jiminy
It would be easy to pick you out of a police lineup cuz you’d had ketchup and mustard smothered all over your chubby face, with a double-quarter pounder with cheese in one hand and your women’s lib pamphlets in the other.
ps your life sounds boring
blessings (financially, of course)
February 25th, 2006 at 3:47 pm
To Another Mortin 2:23 pm…Thank you.
February 25th, 2006 at 3:52 pm
Oh, and I agree with financialblessings that comment 2:58 pm is the lowest blow ever and totally uncalled for. I’ve never met Doug but I will defend Donna. She doesn’t deserve to be called that. Don’t take any anger you have over Doug out on Donna. It just makes you look worse and her look better. God bless…
February 25th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
Hey Rp or Cat,
What happened to Joel Fahndrich’s post? Why did you take it down? Was it all a lie?
February 25th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Criticizing Doug for people leaving CBC and for the brand of Christianity he replicates is one thing. Speculating regarding his motives for marrying is quite another. I used to be friends with both Doug and Donna. They were crazy in love with each other for a long time before Donna’s dad allowed them to date (somehow he eventually decided to overlook his original reasons for forbidding the relationship–that Doug was neither white nor a virgin; clearly that whole piece reflects much more poorly on Bob Wagar than it does on Doug and Donna). Anyway, they definitely married for love. I’m fairly certain, having been around them during their courtship, that their wedding altar kiss was not their first, but, whatever. Who cares? I just felt sad for them because they thought that projecting that somehow made/makes them seem more spiritual or righteous. Having been married for years now, with three kids, I seriously hope they still don’t think or talk about what they did or didn’t do before marriage, and I’m not sure why anyone else is thinking or talking about it, either, quite frankly. So, let’s move on, people, to topics more pertinent to this blog, shall we?
Whether or not Doug would have ever ascended the CBC ladder, or ascended it as quickly had he not married Donna, will never be known. Back when I was friends with Doug, he was not a ladder-climber. He was glad to be saved and burdened to evangelize the lost. He did radical things like sleeping in the rain with street kids because of his passion for helping them know Christ. As soon as he told me how similar he was to his future father-in-law, I backed out of his life slowly, because the Doug I used to know and love was nothing like the legalistic, small-minded, spiritual elitist Wager that I experienced. By my own choosing (even before I left CBC), I don’t really know him anymore, but with the rare interactions we have had, I can safely say that he seems to have changed drastically from the old days, not necessarily for the better. I seriously doubt he hangs out with street kids or any other leper-types now. How sad for Doug. Now instead of inspiring people with the truth of Jesus and the Gospel, he preaches legalism.
February 25th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
“He got a piece of ass that payed out, but he did it for a fruitless cause. He did it because it was easy. He did it because he likes to control others.”
thanks for the quote, financial blessings
February 25th, 2006 at 6:55 pm
I have nothing against Doug, but seeing him in his PBC dorm room with his guitar, sitting on his bunk, playing Boston’s “More Than a Feeling” in his underwear, has and always will remain a cherished memory for me.
February 25th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
Regardless of our feelings about Doug, everyone who has ever met Donna can attest to her being one of the nicest people around. So, I think we need to make sure that we don’t include any personal comments about her.
February 25th, 2006 at 11:03 pm
Please provide proof of your claim that Doug does not keep his promises.
I find it strange that so many people say bad things about Doug, yet they don’t give specifics.
:(
February 26th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
dearest LoadedRuger
do the blog a favor, and stick it to you head.
Jiminy will do you a favor, and pull the trigger.
waiting on you Cat and Pope.
blessings (financially, of course)
February 26th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
FB seems to have read one too many books by either J.D. Salinger (Catcher in the Rye) or Chuck Palahniuk (Fight Club, Survivor). The kind of commentary you’re making has little place in actual human interaction — Salinger and Palahniuk write characters who speak that way as an example of what not to do, an example of what they hope the human race is not. In short, you’re just being mean. I can’t really think of another word for it, and I’m very sorry that you feel the need to say those kinds of things. Here’s hoping you have the good grace to be ashamed of yourself.
February 26th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
What happened to the Joel post???
February 26th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
WHAT HAPPENED TO JOEL
February 26th, 2006 at 2:45 pm
does anyone have comments about what is going on with the power shift at pbc
February 26th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
Somehow, requesting an end to Doug and Donna slander in the name of justice while at the same time depicting Jiminy as a tub of lard rings a bit hollow to me. So FB and MST chill out and clean up your act, last I checked, Jiminy has left herself out of the slanderous Doug Lassit threads.
February 26th, 2006 at 4:28 pm
I’ve known Donna Lasit my entire life, and I totally agree with oinvu4urqt. She was, and still is, a really good friend and and incredibly compassionate and sincere person. True, she has changed since she and Doug became the youth pastors, but that was ten years ago. Wouldn’t ten years, three children, and a lot of stress tend to bring change in just about anyone? I know some people feel like she and Doug are not good youth pastors, but they’ll be the first ones to admit they’ve made mistakes. They’ve also done a lot of good things, which I understand no one’s going to talk about because that’s not nearly as much fun. Until you can say you’ve walked a mile in their shoes, give Doug and Donna a break.
February 26th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
SO GUESS WHAT GUYS???
Pastor Frank has started walking around greeting people before the sermon. They gave the announcements, and when they were starting worship, he walked around the sanctuary saying hello and shaking people’s hands like he was some sort of celebrity. Then he went and sat down in his seat. It was precious.
February 26th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Well Doug may have changed but at least Joel Fahndrich is the same as in high school. I am glad he took down his post; it was obvious he was just telling make believe stories again.
February 26th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Seriously, though, what’s up with Joel?
February 26th, 2006 at 8:34 pm
People dont get specific with doug’s faults because there are so many.
February 26th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
Got any video? Would be fun to watch…
February 26th, 2006 at 9:41 pm
I agree with Hannah. I’ve known Donna a long time, before she married Doug.. and she was a really good person. I do also think she’s changed a bit, but I don’t know if its because she is just a different person in the same way we ALL change as we get older, or if it’s because of the power position she has now.
But the Donna I knew would never let power affect her decisions.
February 26th, 2006 at 9:54 pm
who is talking about donna no one cares about donna
February 26th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
Anonymous, I believe we’re talking about Donna because Loaded-Ruger-butthole-idiot dealt her a cheap shot for no apparent reason other than that she has managed to procure favor. And folks feel the need to defend her. I’m glad for that; she’s an outstanding example in many, many ways.
And if Doug has a single redeeming quality to speak of, it is this: he is a terrific judge of character.
February 27th, 2006 at 12:34 am
Lets talk about the wealthiest CEO attending CBC. This subject is so dull.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:02 am
Teach me not to look at my computer all weekend. …these comments are getting ridiculous. Whatev.
My favorite:
So true. So true.
February 27th, 2006 at 10:52 am
Anonymous said:
February 26th, 2006 at 3:31 pm
I will continue to call out Jiminy until she learns to filter her big mouth. As for your comment, I agree that the comments about Doug and Donna were cheap shots and I refuse to comment on them/their character ect. We are all human and therefor sinful at heart. Anyone who knows me, knows that I have made many big mistakes in my life. I have been both the offender and the offended, but I would always think it to be unfair to bring my mistakes up unprovoked. This blog is not about Doug, Donna or anyone one else at CBC. It is a blog about the Church itself. I do not condone any personal attacks. If anyone had reason to complain about Doug it would be me but let me say this. The same Grace of God that forgave me of my sins is the same Grace of God that forgave Doug of his sins and you of your sins. If you do not agree with the church By church I am talking about CBC of course then fine, but what good does it do to sit at home and cruicify the leaders of CBC. I support all leaders at the church because the Bible makes it clear that we are not the Judge or jury.
Let God do what God is supposed to do and in the end Justice will be served. Doug is a great leader and a Powerful speaker he has many great gifts spiritually and tallents that many of us should be jealous of; of course he is not perfect but what does the Bible say. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Show me a perfect Church and I will never again question your Judgement, Until then I would start praying for Mercy and asking Doug, Donna, Frank, and anyone else named on this Blog for forgivness. Remember the story about the prostitue they caught in the bible, they were testing jesus saying that the law comanded them to stone her and Jesus began to write in the sand “We Still Do not Know What” but said to them, let him who is with out sin cast the first stone. I challenge all of you who think your so perfect to stand up on this Blog and Personally Identify yourself, the reason so many of you post “Anonymous” is because you are affraid/ashamed to be known for the sinner you are.
Let me start with Myself.
My name is Brandon Clark I am a member of CBC. I have made many mistakes and I know I have a long ways to go, but at least I can say I have come this far.
May Gods love and Jesus sacrifice never fail you. I wish you all eternal life!
February 27th, 2006 at 11:32 am
Brandon:
I understand your concern about personal attacks. But don’t you think some of the leaders at CBC are a little too self-important. That they think way too highly of themselves and can’t take a little criticism. Or for that matter, some good natured joking.
Granted some of the comments here cross the line, but you’re going to get that type of thing when you allow people to comment anonymously. And you don’t have to read the comments. I usually don’t.
That said, I get your point, no one is perfect. But for me, this isn’t about pointing out imperfections, it’s about making fun of leaders who take themselves a little too seriously.
February 27th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
MST, you just totally contradicted yourself. You don’t condone personal attacks on Doug and Donna, but Jiminy is fair game. Why is that? Either let God judge everybody or admit you don’t buy into that and hammer away on everybody. You don’t get it both ways.
Also, the “no criticism of church leaders” point has been made on this blog before, and it’s still as ridiculous now as it was back then. Feel free to do a google on Jimmy swaggart, catholic priest molestations, and pastor embezzlement if you want some evidence against that statement. Church leaders are every bit as human as the rest of us and deserve no special treatment when they stray from the straight and narrow.
February 27th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Wow…the comments are crazy. My head hurts.
February 27th, 2006 at 5:31 pm
Jiminy,
You’re pseudo-intelligence is like a fake Louis Vuitton clutch being sold in a Taiwanese market….easy to spot, too flashy to be real, brand-spankin new, and untreated. That’s just the truth. If you can’t minimize your intelligence into smaller bits, then you’re just another rambling idiot with nothing quotable.
SCHOOL IS IN!
Catalyst,
The blog is on fire; it’s not boring. I’ll tell you whats boring–your hair–that’s boring; your posts–almost all of them–real boring.
Pope,
Save Our Blog….SOB, man….SOB. I’m sending out an SOB to Pope. I like Pope cuz he’s funny. Oh and did I mention witty. he’s a real SOB too.
(some wank is gonna comment about my failure to capitalize) that’s boring too.
blessings (financially, of course)
February 27th, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Oh how just a little you might a be a dougy inspires so much….
February 27th, 2006 at 8:19 pm
oh how a little you might be a dougy inspires so much
February 27th, 2006 at 9:30 pm
Is this the record for the most comments on a post? I think it might be.
February 28th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
Brandon,
Do you really believe it is possible to criticize a church without getting “personal”? Do you really believe that the people in the church (i.e. the leaders) are NOT THE CHURCH?
The church is not supposed to be an institution, it is meant to be a COMMUNITY of Believers. If someone in that community is harming the church, should we not name names? If the leadership in charge of that community is at fault, they should be held even more accountable. Your suggestion that we refrain from naming names is just another sign that you can’t be objective about the leadership of CBC and you’re just determined to discredit anyone who suggests that they are imperfect.
Also, I find it hypocritcal that you can make personal attacks against others but not your own church leaders. Additionally, your attacks against Jiminy lack specifics about what the heck you find so offensive about her (other than the fact that she’s educated and can speak her mind clearly). I’ve had disagreements with Jiminy here on this very blog, but I never stooped to personal insults. In spite of our differences, I would probably enjoy meeting her. But I digress…
July 6th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
Gong on February 26, 2006 at 5:20 pm said:
SO GUESS WHAT GUYS???
Pastor Frank has started walking around greeting people before the sermon. They gave the announcements, and when they were starting worship, he walked around the sanctuary saying hello and shaking people’s hands like he was some sort of celebrity. Then he went and sat down in his seat. It was precious.
AHEM-That’s called being a pastor. Handshakes come with the terrtitory, do they not?
July 7th, 2006 at 6:19 am
Are they still giving people the honor of praying for him in front of the whole church during worship (not like that’s distracting or anything)?
July 7th, 2006 at 8:33 am
All right, all right, people. I think this has been taken vastly out of context. It’s all right for people to have a word from God or “pray” in front of the church whether it’s about/to PF or not, IF it really is from the Lord. Regardless of topic, if it’s not from God, it’s innapropriate. So could we have some background perhaps?
July 9th, 2006 at 3:03 pm
Maybe they don’t do it anymore, but while I was there they used to go around and hand pick 5 or 6 people to go up front and pray for Frank during worship… in front of the whole church.
You should have seen the looks on some peoples faces when the “selection process” was going on.
“Pick me, pick me”. It was pathetic.
The best part was when a tatooed visitor, clearly full of zeal for God as his dancing during worship showed, went forward to pray for Frank uninvited.
What do you suppose happened?
He was pulled away from the group, taken to the back of the church to be lectured, and as far as I know never came back.
I’m sure CBC isn’t all about the image… they just make it appear that way.
July 9th, 2006 at 3:46 pm
Didja ever git picked, RP? Why, I get goose-bumps thinking about what yer prayer might have been …
Dear Father in Heaven, we lift up brother Frank, though we don’t need to lift him up much on account a he’s so close to you already. We ask you Lord to heal Franks voice - cure his lisp and lower his voice a full octave so he sounds more like a man of God and less like a eunuch. And Lord, we ask you to give Frank a NEW Father’s day sermon, instead of the same old bitter tripe he’s been shoveling for the last several years. While you’re at it Father, we ask you to counsel Frank that while you teach us to number things arightly, it doesn’t mean that Frank has to count in every sermon.
And now Lord comes the issue that is so close to Frank’s heart - money. O Lord we pray that you transfer the wealth of ungodly competitors of Starbucks such as Millstone, Seattle’s Best, et al, in to the hands of Frank to use on behalf of CBC debt retirement, the CBC district softball league, and of course to fund staff salaries and pensions, not to mention our plans for simulcasting. We pray for more widows to attend CBC and the wisdom to acquire their houses legally.
Amen.
July 10th, 2006 at 5:13 am
About the sermans being a count fest:
I go to a church that has ZERO structures in the sermans. I must say, one thing CBC has going for it is that it’s always easy to write down the message.
December 3rd, 2006 at 7:02 pm
CBC sucks!! So does “Dougie”! What a complete ugly fake!
December 4th, 2006 at 10:54 pm
I am praying for each and everyone of you guy’s, because this blog is one of the most spitefull hatefull things I have ever seen. I understand peoples frustration’s with all the ‘’issues” in the church, don’t get me wrong, but if anyone finds a “perfect” church let me know (by the way it will never happen, because we are all human, and we all make mistakes). CBC has done sooooo much more good, than bad, and if you don’t think that’s true than you are living under a rock!
I have had some of my own issues with leadership in different churches, but I have learned insted of bashing the leadership, you should sincerley pray for them in a pure and non-judging spirit.
Obviously have alot of very frusterated people that are saying that some of these men of God are fakes, and liers, and whatever else, I say to you people- Judge not lest you be judged!!
P.S. The devil loves this Blog!
December 4th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
For what its worth, this isn’t one of our better posts. I can see how you would hate it.
That said, your P.S. is one of the best/funnies/greatest comments I have ever read on this blog.
December 5th, 2006 at 7:55 am
Yes, yes, it’s like the sweet smell of burning sulphur to me.
December 5th, 2006 at 8:07 am
I nominate this for comment of the year! Great work, Judge.
Oh, and by the way, the next time you are talking with Satan about this blog ask what he thinks about the logos.
December 5th, 2006 at 8:42 am
Man that’s sooo much better then “enjoy hell”. I’m humbled.
Wait, are we at stage two, or stage five here?
December 5th, 2006 at 1:34 pm
That’s ok if you think that my P.S. was a joke, but I am 100% serious when I say that you guy’s that are bashing the church and it’s leadership, are playing a game that I am glad I am not invoved in. Tell me one thing, who does this blog benifit? I am pretty sure it’s the one who want’s publicity, and has no other constuctive outlet in life.
Lord,I am really dis-heartened by what I see here, and I am praying God, that you will do his will in every situation that is represented here, amen.
December 5th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Judge not…
Evidently, you and The Devil have something in common.
YOU BOTH LOVE THIS BLOG!
Seriously, don’t feel you have to comment all the time.
December 5th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
Don’t look now Judge, but you just reached the 10th comment mark…which officially makes you an active member of this blog.
Congratulations and Thank You for your support.
December 5th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
Congrats on making stage 4 so quickly:the-5-stages-that-make-this-worthwhile
p.s. The irony of your name, vs. your statements is wonderful. Thanks for the love.
December 5th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
Hey judge-not,
I’ll admit it. The blog benefits me…it has helped me deal with hurts and disappointments received at BT and has given me the ability to worship God in a small presbyterian church in a small town without guilt and without feeling inadequate in my Christian faith.
Not sure what publicity you think I’m after because I already have more constructive outlets than I can handle.
Oh…please note that no possessives were hurt in the posting of this blog.
December 5th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
No disrespect ment at all to anyone, if that’s the way I came across I am sorry. I myself have had my issues with BT in the past, but God is healing them, as I am willing to confront them. All I am saying is talking trash about our spiritual leaders, is probably not the best way to deal with all of your hurt’s, anyway’s somthing to think about. I am glad for you that you have found a place to worship in peace, God bless!
December 5th, 2006 at 8:33 pm
You have a spiritual leader other than Jesus?!?
December 5th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
judge not…
You might want to use spell check from now on. Just a suggestion.
December 5th, 2006 at 9:52 pm
Well mabey you should get a life and get some spaces in between your screen name and no use such foul language! Just a sujjjjeessttiioonn!!
December 6th, 2006 at 8:51 am
Doug Lasit is not my spiritual leader… if he want’s to take me fishing I’m in, but he’s not my spiritual leader.
December 6th, 2006 at 11:15 am
I think CLF has their own version of “You might be a “Dougie” if…”
Hmmm… maybe there is something about that name… “Doug”…
December 7th, 2006 at 9:43 pm
Careful……………
These personal attacks are not helpful in our matter.
Pray for Doug, expect healing and restoration, wait patiently on the Lord for what he will do.
Please consider not joining some of these people in the personal attacks.
I’m sure you know my personal story of what happened at CLF. If you don’t (or even of you do), you can email me at woodfam2@comcast.net , and I will be willing to share with you.
I do so, in the hope that it helps all of us heal and seek the Lord for restoration and a great testimony of His goodness and grace.
Thanks,
Dan Wood
December 12th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
There are many people that have stories about this church.
You always pray for leadership in general. In this case however, CBC members should be praying for some honest leadership to take over in the church.
December 13th, 2006 at 9:52 am
I’ll add a CLF varient:
“You might be a Dougie if you think that punishing the hungry is acceptable retaliation against the Elders”
July 8th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Just when I was getting a little angry with this site, I realized that God has just spoken to me. You see I met Doug Lasit at a conference in Puerto Rico, which God used to change my life. I now understand that being part of God’s will means that I may be criticized, and mocked at. But “Blessed is the man
who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked
or stand in the way of sinners
or sit in the seat of mockers.
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
and on his law he meditates day and night.
3 He is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither.
Whatever he does prospers. “
The fruit surpasses all.
July 8th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I’m confused.. did God tell you that, or did you come up with it on your own?
And you might also get mocked if you say that God tells you to do everything you do. For what it’s worth, God didn’t tell me to tell you that, though. Just something I’ve learned through practical life experience.
July 8th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Uh…you just lost your blessing.
If commenting on the CityBusinessBlog doesn’t count as “sitting in the seat of mockers” than I don’t know what does.
July 8th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
I am so glad to hear that DL was such an influence in your life. He had a small bit of influence in mine as well (not in the same positive way as yours however). You see you are the perfect person for a guy like DL. He can swoop in to your far off land, preach all sorts of tall tales about how he has conquered giants and defeated demons. He can play on your heart strings and make you feel all warm and mushy inside. But then he can leave and let someone else take care of the real work. He doesn’t have to play clean up with a guy like you and that’s the perfect scenario for him. Do you watch baseball? Well based on my experiences with DL, he loves to be the starting pitcher who excites the crowd and gets all the headlines. But he never wants to be down in the trenches late in the game. If you ask him to come in to close out a game during a 10th inning stretch, the guy will avoid it like the plague, pull a hammy or something. You see to me he’s not a pastor as much as he is a preacher, and there is a big difference. I don’t critique DL because he is a bad person, in fact he’s somewhat charming. I critique him because he has failed at his job of taking care of people.
July 16th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
He can play on your heart strings and make you feel all warm and mushy inside. But then he can leave and let someone else take care of the real work. He doesn’t have to play clean up with a guy like you and that’s the perfect scenario for him. Do you watch baseball? Well based on my experiences with DL, he loves to be the starting pitcher who excites the crowd and gets all the headlines. But he never wants to be down in the trenches late in the game. If you ask him to come in to close out a game during a 10th inning stretch, the guy will avoid it like the plague, pull a hammy or something. You see to me he’s not a pastor as much as he is a preacher, and there is a big difference. I don’t critique DL because he is a bad person, in fact he’s somewhat charming. I critique him because he has failed at his job of taking care of people.
Oh yes yes yes!!!! I remember going through a a really hard time my high school years when i attended cbc. DL wanted to speak with me in his office and said “whatever it takes im here for you, we will get thru this doubting god phase in your life. im here for you day or night just call.” yea sweet, he helped by having me come into the church every tuesday and thursday and serve the mfi pastors food, then let me clean up after them….. wow, way to really make me feel like you cared about me and what was really going when we were in your office, then have me empty trash and clean up dishes. then me having to ask 5 people in the office to even find out where he was at so i could have my next assignment….. hum…. he made it sound like he so genuinely cared about helping me thru my tough phase. instead i get blown off to be servant in the house of god. because “just being willing to serve makes it all better right?” haha… not exactly looking out for “your sheep” right???? more like looking out for his own ego and status! because heaven forbid the youth pastor should really help the struggling ones and actually be surrounded by the “sinners” who didnt sit in the front row at gen church…. right?! lol.