Frank Damazio on The Georgene Rice Show
Posted on March 3rd, 2006 by catalyst into the Pastor Hank category Excellent comment from one our founding readers.
Unfreaking believable!!!
“Pastor” Frank was on the Georgine Rice talk show yesterday, talking about the Northwest Breakthrough conference.He sounded very tired and down.
Georgene had to inform him of some times for the meetings that he couldn’t remember( must have been a bad tithing week). Anyway, the climax for me was when Frank was talking about how the sessions would all start with prayer and how they would pray for the city, the metro area, and the business leaders.
The business leaders? Not the lost, not the homeless, not the poor or hungry in the city but the business leaders. I should have been expecting that but it still shocked me to hear the priorities of Frank. There are probably a number of excuses that supporters of his might throw out but I say "out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks."
Oh yeah what makes that even more comical or sad, is that Georgene interviewed a different pastor before Frank who was talking about a prayer meeting for Washington state, with Christians from many churches and denominations gathering to repent for not being salt and light to the culture.
He was saying that to many people see the church reacting to cultural problems with politics and condemnation, and that Christians should repent of their sins, humble themselves, and then seek the presence of God for their Churches. What a contrast to Frank’s guarantees of conference attendees being taken into the presence of God, and his prayer for the business leaders of the Portland metro area.
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March 3rd, 2006 at 10:05 am
Anyone have a link to the broadcast stream? I’d like to listen to it…
March 3rd, 2006 at 10:08 am
I checked online and couldn’t find one. But this 2006, there’s got to be something out there.
March 3rd, 2006 at 10:13 am
Agreed. With shoutcast servers available for next to no cost.. it amazes me that anybody in the broadcast industry is NOT streaming their shows.
:(
Even CBC makes all their shows available. Now you can watch Frank get you excited about tithing with your iPod!
haha.
March 3rd, 2006 at 10:23 am
The web page for the show’s archives doesn’t seem to indicate he was even on the show at said time, or at least he wasn’t a featured guest.
http://kpdq.salemwebnetwork.com/subpage.asp?StationId=KPDQ-FM&PageNo=116
KPDQ has always been a rather backwards run radio station. The have a link on their homepage to podcasts but it seems to have very little connection (if any) with the broadcast content.
March 3rd, 2006 at 12:17 pm
So one pastor tries to reach a few hundred lost poeple and pastor Frank gets 100 leaders built up and trained to reach 100 lost people . Thats 100 lost for the first guy and 10,000 lost for pastor Frank . I’ll take the 10,000.
These numbers of course are made up but I think you get the point.
March 3rd, 2006 at 12:25 pm
IMHO, I think every church has a different bent or place in the body. We cannot all be “feet” and every church won’t be primarily evangelistic. Within MFI there are prophetic churches, apostolic churches, evangelistic churches, teaching churches. I do think CBC has become more evangelistic under Frank’s leadership, much more in fact.
The thing is is that you have to be comfortable with the bent where you attend. Find a place that matches your bent.
March 3rd, 2006 at 1:23 pm
I agree with KM but I tend to think that pastors who want to drive luxury cars are gonna want to “hang, or “bend” to those out there that have that stuff. That life.
It’s just like any click in the world. If a pastor wants to hang with the Ambercrombie kids he/she’s gonna look the part, right.
This subject tends to go stupid real quick for me tho. I think when churches start selling a “product”, “brand”, or “style,” they essentially become irrelevant to me and most of America.
The worst part is that individual pastors start adopting the ideas of the
“cool kids” and really soon we see what has happened to CBC.
Churches used to comfort neighborhoods. Now that America is spreading out into suburban, wal-mart, meg-church, weekly EVENTS!!! we see that modern Christainity has BECOME the world that I thought the scriptures said to we are to reject.
Modern christainity is nothing more than a fancy label on a jar of old, rotten spaghetti sauce. Once the ingredients are forgotten, LOVE, MERCY, FORGIVENESS, SHARING, KINDNESS, we get a church like CBC. A shallow, multi-media, hype machine that doesnt care about anything other than the bottom line and productivity.
March 3rd, 2006 at 2:28 pm
I’d agree with that Magdelon, which is why I don’t attend CBC. If anyone’s looking for a good church Living Hope in Vancouver has it’s priorities straight.
March 3rd, 2006 at 2:53 pm
Sure.. maybe.
But I don’t recall that Jesus spent a lot of time in leadership training, at the expense of ignoring the lost.
Seems to me that his ministry was primarily to the lost, and the leaders came around as a natural result.
March 3rd, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Wow, that is ridiculous. Something just seems REALLY REALLY wrong about that. hmmmm.
March 4th, 2006 at 8:05 pm
this was more like unfranken believable
February 1st, 2007 at 9:45 am
Hmm . . . Let’s pray for the business leaders to reach out to their community then, eh? Anyway, I can’t find Georgine’s Rice’s website. I found you though.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:38 am
http://www.kpdq.com/meetourteam/biopage.asp?ID=266
deanna… try that to find her
February 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Kari Michelle said: …some churches are apostolic churches…
Kari Michelle: Hope you are well!
May I recommend to you my recent post on “apostolic churches” to livinglife under the blog article “Burnout”? (By the way, Ted Haggard was considered an “apostle” - and his church an “apostolic church” - who hand picked his own elders and trustees with those who complied with his own “vision” and said that he was “accountable” to several pastors outside of his own local body…
February 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Kari Michelle said: …Living Hope in Vancouver has it’s priorities straight….
Kari Michelle: My neighbor goes to Living Hope and my wife and I live in Vancouver. Assuming you live in the area, would you like to get together with us sometime (since I know who you are!)?
February 1st, 2007 at 8:30 pm
catalyst said: .
..Frank announced to the city that they would be praying for the business leaders at the conference…
hi catalyst:
What would be the reason that any pastor would announce to an entire city that they will make a special time to pray for business leaders? Would it be that God would strengthen their marriages? Would it be that Jesus would deliver them from marketplace temptations? Would it be for the Spirit of God to help their kids who are strung out on drugs?
The Hidden Agenda:
I wish that were true. In my view, and I might be totally wrong here, but whenever I hear this kind of pulpit fund-raising, it is to pray that God would prosper the business person so that they will make more money - to donate to the pastor’s vision! I don’t really remember too many places in the New Testament where Jesus or any of the apostles asked for prayer that they might become wealthy - even so that they could have more funds to preach the Gospel.
I would not be surprised if God would not judge some day, those Christian leaders who use prayer as a come-on to raise money!
The 700 Club:
The other day I called in a prayer request to the 700 Club, which I, generally, really enjoy. After the lady agreed with me in prayer, she asked for a donation. I told her that we had in the past sent in some money to Operation Blessing, but that we were not planning on becoming 700 Club members, making a monthly monetary commitment. Then we pleasantly ended the conversation.
I felt offended at her asking me for money when I called in for prayer, so I sent in a complaint email. One of the supervisors called me back in short order and explained that the literally receive thousands of calls every day to the 24 hour prayer center, and they have to support a paid staff to man the phones; they are not all volunteers. As a matter of fact, she said that they receive so many calls that the staff has been asked to shorten their phone calls so that they can pray for more people.
I told her that I understood, but I really don’t know how I’ll feel when I call in next time with my heart heavy with a burden for prayer and someone asks me, “Will you consider joining the 700 Club for only $20.00 a month?”
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 am
So glad you spoke up about it David. If we all speak up when something doesn’t feel right, it gives the ministry, church, person a chance to reevaluate and change. I’m sure the 700 club shares their need with their audience more than once during their broadcast. They should keep their prayer support simply prayer and not clutter it up by asking for money and sending mixed messages. That’s also a guilt request: now that I’ve prayed for you, you should consider paying me for my service?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 am
You are assuming that the 100 leaders are reaching the lost. Reaching the lost takes time and if all your time is in leadership meetings and church, how are you even able to talk to lost people, let alone reach them? I guess you can witness to them at the gas station or the store or the bank on the way to or from the church, but chances are your own fatigue or physical hunger will keep you from even noticing that another human is there.
This is off subject, but isn’t it a little arrogant to assume that you are good and the other posters are less than?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 am
The only reason to watch the 700 Club is for the stupid things Pat Robertson says.
February 2nd, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Does it really matter what “bent” a church has these days? Thats like saying that is their gift or style. I thought the great comission was to reach the lost –
Maybe when we learn to keep the main thing the main thing it will simplify our lives and our missions and we’ll know why we’re on planet earth. From a believer who as been in a green church with a focus on aluminum can drives on Satuday mornings to the Washington DC lets take over the world mentality church.
Everything but Jesus gets tiresome eventually!
June 29th, 2007 at 8:58 am
I have no connection to City Bible, never went there, don’t know the Pastor…but my word…what a colossal waste of time this website is….if you have problems with this church and the pastor hopefully you are going somewhere else….and I will be praying for that church and pastor for strength and protection against you and your mindset and the issues you are dealing with…..
June 29th, 2007 at 9:02 am
Well, we did get you to read and comment. So… you know… not a TOTAL waste of time.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:10 am
Heh heh … I haven’t heard anyone use the word “colossal” since the 1960’s, in one of those old black and white monster movies …
Jeff, do you say “23 Skidoo” too?
Sam
June 29th, 2007 at 9:47 am
Well, I like the fact that the poster’s colossal waste of typing bumped the topic back up, because otherwise I wouldn’t have seen it.
I guess Frank ascribes to “trickle down” Christianity. In theory, this MIGHT work for the economy, but it’s NOT biblical last I checked. It seems that to have the heart of Christ, the emphasis wouldn’t be on praying for the business leaders (IE: praying for their tithe in order to appropriate more money to buy more property for the church) but to pray for workers to get the Good News out to the poor….
Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor.
Matthew 11:5 The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.
Luke 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
Luke 7:22 So he replied to the messengers, “Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.
June 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Good word…F-ACC-M….Scripture standing on it’s own is very clear and powerful…