Who is she talking about?
Posted on September 15th, 2006 by Reformed Pope into the Uncategorized categoryRosie O'Donnell has caused quite a stir (a great ratings boost I'm sure) by comparing "radical" Christians to terrorist. Of course this means that the Holy, Blessed by God, Republican party is now up in arms.
I'm just not sure whether their mad because she insulted Christians or if it's because she's gay. Either way, I love the drama.
Here's part of an article discussing the issue:
Rosie O'Donnell says "radical" Christians in America are just as much of a threat as the followers of radical Islam who piloted hijacked jetliners into New York's Twin Towers and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.
O'Donnell, the newest face on ABC's "The View," yesterday let her feelings fly after co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck noted militant Islam provides a threat to free people.
"Just a minute," she interrupted. "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have separation of church and state."
She had been saying America was attacked "not by a nation."
Yet, she said, "And as a result of the attack and the killing of nearly 3,000 innocent people we invaded two countries and killed innocent people."
A bewildered co-host, Joy Behar, protested that Christians are not threatening to impose mass murder on Americans.
"There's that difference. This group is threatening to kill us," Behar said.
And Hasselback, appearing surprised, said, "We are not bombing ourselves here in the country."
"No, but we are bombing innocent people in other countries. True or false?" O'Donnell said.
I for one think she is giving Christians way to much credit. We would never do anything to impose on the comforts of life. Bomb someone? She's crazy, we may throw a big banquet and raise money for someone else to do the bombing, but there is no way were doing it ourselves.
This is what you get when you elect a so called "Christian" president. He may go to church, but he certainly hasn't done much for Jesus.
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September 15th, 2006 at 8:44 am
I can see her point, if it’s FREEDOM that she feels is threatened.
Fundamentally, aren’t the islamic jihadists attempting to establish religious rule through terrorism, while the fundamentalist christians jihadists attempt to establish religious rule through politics? Only their methods differ.
Rosie probably isn’t long for “The View”, unless she shuts up and lets the other 3 co-hosts get a word in edgewise. They will regret letting Star go, I think.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:33 am
Rosie O’Donnell is just a gross, ignorant idiot with money… why would anyone even care what she says about anything?
September 15th, 2006 at 10:48 am
Because she’s funny…unlike that complete waste of space named Oprah.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:14 pm
Rosie O’Donnel is NOT funny, she’s gross and annoying.
September 15th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
How is she gross and annoying?
I’ll give you she’s not much to look at and likes to shoot her mouth off on topics she probably shouldn’t (see rant about gun control). But how does that make her any different than the rest of the knuckleheads on TV?
Personally, the only difference between her and some pastor yapping about politics from the pulpit is she doesn’t hide behind religious elitism if/when she puts her foot in her mouth. That and that whole lesbian thing, but as Christians, we wouldn’t be petty enough to use that as an excuse to rant against her and call her names now would we?
Regardless, would you rather put up with Rosie or Star Jones. Miss Jones looks like a star trek alien with a diva complex. At least Rosie is funny and a somewhat decent human being.
September 15th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
Pope, I gotta disagree. Oprah is hardly a “complete waste of space.” I used to dislike her, but after seeing how much she does for people and what she has become given where she has come from/what she has gone through, I have become a fan.
I find Rosie’s “humor” pretty middle-school. I agree with “Unscrupulous” that she’s not long for the View. Not really a good fit there. I also agree with “Church Girl,” in that I find Rosie gross and annoying. I only have one friend who likes her (but she also liked Dumb and Dumber, so our taste in entertainment differs drastically). Better she stick to her own show so that those who really like her can watch her (and those who don’t can avoid it).
Rosie’s comparison of American “Chrstians” to Islamist extremists in the sense of their threat to our freedom is a big stretch.
September 15th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Rosie reminds me of Jabba the Hut.
September 16th, 2006 at 6:59 am
Honestly, I don’t give a rip who’s on “The View”. I don’t have time to sit around during the day to watch a bunch of women argue about current issues that they probably aren’t too informed on anyway, I have a job!!!
I just think Rose’s annoying, she’s not exactly easy to look at and her voice is completely obnoxious.
September 17th, 2006 at 4:58 am
Rosie believes her views are an absolute. If you disagree with her you are out of touch and a loser. She has NO tolerance for any other opinion! My question is, why out of the all the talented and articulate folks who could do the job, did they pick her! YUK!
September 17th, 2006 at 5:10 pm
After watching the clip on msn.com and the arguments following today, I couldn’t help be glad that at least radical christianity was defined somewhat more than it has been till now. ‘What is a radical christian?’ was discussed at length. Till now, we’ve just been thrown in the pot with the Freddy guy who protests abortions at soldiers funerals and gives all xtians a bad name. The everyday xtian joe needs to be given some slack while the radical freddies need their behavior exposed as unacceptable and idiotic. I’m not ashamed of the gospel or to identify with Jesus, but I am ashamed of being lumped in with freddy.
I do think Rosie is intolerant of every view but her own, but she is defensive of her lifestyle and would probably really like to kill the christian voice off completely if she could. I just hope that there is at least one authentic Jesus representative in her life who can go the distance agape-wise with her. How else will the Lord be able to get through to her core which will determine where she spends eternity?
September 17th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
“I just hope that there is at least one authentic Jesus representative in her life who can go the distance agape-wise with her. How else will the Lord be able to get through to her core which will determine where she spends eternity?”
God can’t do it by himself?
September 17th, 2006 at 10:09 pm
I can’t believe TCR took “Christ” out of Christian…
September 18th, 2006 at 8:47 am
I guess he can do it all by himself. forgive the slip: 20 years of mfi training saying that he doesn’t do anything apart from using people…
September 18th, 2006 at 8:53 am
indeed. i got tired of writing christian over and over. i also use it for xmas when i get tired of writing out christmas and i often don’t capitalize He either. I guess i could be like Ann Lamott (Traveling Mercies, Plan B-Further Thoughts on Faith) who does capitalize when she refers to God as He or She. Now that would be a nice topic for your blog wouldn’t it?
September 18th, 2006 at 9:36 am
Enough said.
September 18th, 2006 at 8:31 pm
‘What is a radical christian?’
In defining radical christianity could it be that megachurch star pastors who live in the lap of luxery at the expense of their ‘flocks’ meet the criteria? The church, ideally, is supposed to be a refuge from our celebrity-driven society when, instead, these kinds of idol infested circuses using the name of Christ are actually ripping the collective ‘us’ off from the church’s true purpose.
And is it true mr. j.mojo-smith has been nominated for an emmy award for a dvd he’s on? omg! If that happens, that will just further emphasize to their warped perspective that they are highly favored of God with a calling high above the rest of the common herd–to the poor schmucks that they must think we are status-wise.
September 19th, 2006 at 6:12 am
I don’t know what “radical” is any more.
As a teen, my blue jeans were radical; but then, everyone was wearing them, so radical was conformist. I was told leaving the institutional church for a house / home church was radical, but that’s just following scripture’s example of believers meeting in homes, so I guess that’s conformist too.
Sometimes I think radicals are those who take an original idea, and run far afield with it - those who push the envelope to the max. That would seem to describe the institutional church, which has hijacked the simple love-faith of Jesus, and turned it into a lucrative business and authoritarian organization, preaching things that bear little or no resemblance to Jesus teaching - like the prosperity doctrine, diversity, etc.
Which is radical: the prodigal son takes his inheritance and leaves home to party hardy, or, the prodigal son returning home after he’s busted?
I don’t know.
September 19th, 2006 at 8:34 am
Perhaps Rosie should have used another term than radical. How about fanatical?
“Fanatical is applied to a person who has extravagant views, esp. in matters of religion or morality, which render that person incapable of sound judgments; and excessive zeal which leads him or her to take violent action against those who have differing views: fanatical in persecuting others. ”
I remember various voices in my former church hailing themselves as fanatical and were quite pleased with themselves.