Ted Haggard Follow UP
Posted on August 31st, 2007 by Reformed Pope into the Christian Pop Culture categoryHere is an article from Colorado Springs gazette.com discussing the return of Ted Haggard. It would appear that his previous email discussing his need for financial support and his plans to return to "the Ministry" was not approved by his…well…I don't know what they are…the article calls them the pastors overseeing his restoration…which of course is just the Christian way of saying "sponsor"…anyway Ted's sponsors did not approve of this email being sent out. Here are some quotes from the article
Disgraced minister Ted Haggard’s e-mailed plea for money and his announced intention to return to religious work was “unacceptable” and “inappropriate,” according to a statement Wednesday by pastors overseeing his restoration.The four pastor team of overseers said in the statement that Haggard must seek secular employment to support himself and his family.
Sounds like Ted might be a bit of a loose cannon…even with a four sponsor team he still is out running wild
Last week, Haggard, who moved to Phoenix after he was fired by the Colorado Springs megachurch, sent an e-mail to ABC affiliate KRDO about his plans to work in a faith-based halfway house known as the Dream Center. The Dream Center is run by Tommy Barnett, one of Haggard’s spiritual mentors and head of the 15,000-member Phoenix First Assembly of God, which Haggard now attends.Haggard asked for two years of monthly support while he worked and lived in the Dream Center and he and his wife finished earning degrees at the University of Phoenix.
This is just my opinion, but I don't think anyone should let Ted near a halfway house…let alone let him work there. When you also have addictions it's not called "counseling" it's called "networking". Can you imagine how a counseling session with Ted would go?
Ted: So…you've got a drug addiction…and you've gotten so desperate that you started selling your self out as a male prostitute?
Patient: Uh…no…I'm not a male prostitute…and I’m not here for…
Ted: But you would consider selling yourself…if the price were right…wouldn't you?
Patient: No…That’s ridiculous…I would never…
Ted: Suppose I was to put $1000 dollars in your pocket right now…are you saying that you wouldn't let me…
Patient: What the hell is wrong with you, are you even a real doctor?
Ted: I need to see how strong you are, so this is just a test, but look…here are ten $100 dollar bills…now…very slowly, I'm going to need you to…
Patient: (Runs out of the room)
The good news is that Tommy and his Dream Center are a bit smarter than old Ted gave them credit for
The announcement came as a surprise to the overseers and the Dream Center.According to the overseers’ statement:
“After their fact-finding was complete, they (overseers) informed Mr. Haggard that his plan and his communications about it were unacceptable. Mr. Haggard’s solicitation for personal support was inappropriate. It was never the intention of the Dream Center that Mr. Haggard would provide any counsel or other ministry. Mr. Haggard will not be moving in or working with the Dream Center. He will not be doing any ministry. He will be seeking secular employment to support himself and his family.”
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August 31st, 2007 at 8:49 am
Bravo to his overseers for doing the right thing. It still amazes me that abusive pastors can be so delusional about getting back into ministry after messing up so badly. To ask for money on top of that takes real chutzpah! (Did I spell that right?)
August 31st, 2007 at 10:28 am
hahaha… i love that dialogue. Good Stuff.
August 31st, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Hahaha, why do I find it Sooo refreshing to see B.S. run into reality?
The Dream Center’s stock just rose a few bucks in my humble opinion.
August 31st, 2007 at 1:58 pm
I can’t believe the nerve of this man! This is why I have NO sympathy for these prosperity/WOF/televanglist pastors when they fall. After ALL of that he still isn’t humble and repentant. He is still an arrogant ass. The only thing anyone should help him do is connect his foot to the end of his own behind.
August 31st, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Exactly.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:38 am
Maybe he could hook up with Rod Hill down in Mexico. They could do some networking together down there.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:23 am
What is poor Ted supposed to do? Go to work like an ordinary person? What could he do? Sweep the floor at McDonalds? He has a family to support in the manner they have become accustomed to.
Why shouldn’t he ask for money? He has been asking for years and it has always worked for him.
Now that the titty has dried up do you expect him to wean himself ‘cold-turkey’? Don’t be so cruel!
September 1st, 2007 at 11:41 am
Like I said, have him get in touch with Rod. He will get him hooked back up to the titty in no time! He’s had no problem at all making connections for himself.
September 1st, 2007 at 8:55 pm
“Now that the titty has dried up do you expect him to wean himself ‘cold-turkey’? Don’t be so cruel!
Like I said, have him get in touch with Rod. He will get him hooked back up to the titty in no time! He’s had no problem at all making connections for himself.”
He should be forced to milk himself off the titty for what he did. There shouldn’t have been a titty to begin with. When pastors have titty to depend on we must look at the providers of the titties. If Rob gets Ted back on the titty Rob should be held responsible for getting him back on the titty and someone should take Rob’s very own titty, because you know he has a titty too.
DARN IT I was trying to say titty 10 times in one paragraph. Only got 8. Oh well, next time lol.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pm
What is all of this about titties?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:35 am
A secular job???!! Gasp! Isn’t that just for the little people (aka tithers)? How humiliating.
I’m truly curious about how many people actually responded to his email by sending money (you know some people did. Ick).
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 am
anom said: What is all of this about titties?
Maybe they meant to spell tithe but spelled titty instead.! lol! Is there any difference?
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Apparently not.
Might make for an interesting chapter title in Dave’s book, though
joe
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Hey!
Ain’t nutt’in wrong with that!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:31 pm
This is so liberating to not be bound by social ethics penis, vagina, titty, WHEEEEEEEEEE anus ,caca poop, pee pee lol lol lol. Oh fudge. Reminds me when we were kids.tee heeeeeeee teeeeeee heeeee.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:08 pm
lol
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:10 pm
man, please give him something to milk on
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:58 pm
frodo: hysterical! I think I’m gonna die laughing! You’re killing me ! I think this is like the toronto blessing . I’m getting healed just laughing at your last comment. Who would have thought bathroom jokes would be the answer to all of this spiritual naval gazing? hahahahahaha teee heee heee.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Sometimes a bathroom joke is like a healing balm
September 4th, 2007 at 6:48 am
Discusting! Totally Diacusting.
September 4th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Yes Daisy it was disgusting and i pray that the lord will forgive me. Everyone was having too much fun being disgusting . Being a nameless character does that too you.
September 4th, 2007 at 9:25 am
frodo needs to be blocked .. or at least delete his disgusting posts
GROW UP frodo
September 4th, 2007 at 9:30 am
I was trying to expose the disgusting behavior I’ve seen on this blog. And the joy people were getting out of saying a dirty word they couldn’t say otherwise. My comment was no more disgusting than anyone elses. Isn’t that what everyone wanted to see, (dirty words).
September 4th, 2007 at 9:39 am
My personal choice is in words of edification and clean humor. Toilet jokes and words belong just there, not here.
Thank You
September 4th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Frodo——you Dodo
There may be hope for you yet! heavy on the “may be.’
I thought we were going to have to kidnap you and take you away to be de-programmed, but I see the freedom on the blog is getting to you too.
You are just as disgusting on the one hand as you are on the other but if you hang in here for awhile you may be able to swing toward the middle and we will all love the wonderful person trapped in there someplace. Har har.
September 4th, 2007 at 9:44 am
You didn’t think there was anything wrong with it earlier.
September 4th, 2007 at 9:58 am
Frodo, where’s the forgiveness you preach about. Fall on your face before god and repent. Your mouth has become like an open sewer , spewing filth like a geyser. REPENT OH WICKED ONE. (My eyes actually became glassed over, and for one glorioos moment I felt like a pastor. lol)
September 4th, 2007 at 10:04 am
Daisy it looks like you were getting your rocks off earlier with all the toilet humor. lol people in glass houses shouldn’t thow stones.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:07 am
Joebib– I know I spelled throw wrong so you can put your red pen away.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Sure would be nice to get back to Matthew….
September 4th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Boyfriend?
September 4th, 2007 at 11:58 am
LOL! That’s was funny.
Ok everyone one needs to calm down. Don’t blame Frodo its my fault since I was the one who made the original tittie joke. If I offended some of you I’m sorry. I am not perfect and don’t pretend to be and I certainly don’t throw stones in glasses houses. I am also not a hypocite.——–>
Daisy:”Hey! Ain’t nutt’in wrong with that!” (referring to the jokes)
THE VERY NEXT DAY:
Daisy: “My personal choice is in words of edification and clean humor. Toilet jokes and words belong just there, not here.
Thank You”
Nice, very nice.
Calm down it was a joke. Frodo was joking. Stop trying to be holier than thou….it’s not impressing anyone and it isn’t impressing God. He hates pride.
“This is so liberating to not be bound by social ethics penis, vagina, titty, WHEEEEEEEEEE anus ,caca poop, pee pee lol lol lol. Oh fudge. Reminds me when we were kids.tee heeeeeeee teeeeeee heeeee.”
LOL what was sooo offensive about this!?!? He didn’t curse or diss anyone. He made a childish joke. I’m sure you have done the same. How are th words above “dirty”. As far as I know most people here have penises, vaginas, and titties…….he didn’t say the dirty alternatives for these words !!!
Relax……just breathe.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Now, now children…
If you don’t like the words penis and vagina and titty ect., maybe you should just avoid the internet altogether.
Wow, I can’t believe this is what people think of when they hear the name Ted Haggard. Whewww.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Oh! please forgive this sinful hipocrite, for I have spoken with forked tongue.
Then let’s all lighten up. All of that was said in jest. (snicker, snicker)
September 4th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
poop!
September 4th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Whaa?
September 4th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
We are not children anymore, we are adults . We are not supposed to be acting like children and having fun. Speaking of bathroom jokes,has anyone heard anything new on Ted Haggard?
September 4th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Sorry I wasn’t clear. That would be St.Matthew. The Haggard issue seems to be quite adequately covered…
September 4th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Yeah, Ted Haggard having sex with male prostitutes is a way more mature subject for us to be talking about. What were we all thinking? Nothing dirty about that! Just make sure you use lots of scripture and come off real intellectual and all and you can get away with anything! Titter! Titter! (lol)
September 4th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
caj
Are you saying that Ted Haggard had an affair with Saint Mathew? lol Why don’t you just admit that you got on the wrong blog?
September 5th, 2007 at 6:33 am
Sad observation there, caj.
Ted Haggard, Angry Pastors, Doug Cotton, et al, garner lots of replies, a veritable pelting of pixels - bury them beneath a heap of rotten tomatoes …
RP’s last Matthew post garnered just one reply - a smiley face.
Something about pearls before swine comes to mind … OINK!
Sam
September 5th, 2007 at 8:34 am
They are right, we should open with a prayer. I know you all want to go first but allow me . “My GOD my GOD open their eyes to see they are not children anymore. Let them know their mom can”t force the other kids play with them.”
September 5th, 2007 at 10:48 am
I am so sorry that my one word ‘t—y’, used to make a point, caused such an uproar!
It seems this triggered the repressed libido in many of you, and you went crazy.
This caused the religious indignation in the other group to go sky high and we all headed to the air-raid shelters to escape the fire from heaven they called down.
But Miss Blackhead, the name you chose for yourself is as offensive to me as any of the ‘dirty’ words the others used.
Blackhead brings to mind pimple, pus, boil, puke etc.
September 5th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
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this will show up very tiny but click on it and poof the armageddon flowchart.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Just Curious I hope blackhead isn’t their last name.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Why does God love some people more than others?
September 5th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
I think it’s my sense of humor.
September 5th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Frodo said: [I was trying to expose the disgusting behavior I’ve seen on this blog. And the joy people were getting out of saying a dirty word they couldn’t say otherwise. My comment was no more disgusting than anyone elses. Isn’t that what everyone wanted to see, (dirty words).
Anna says: Yeah I think they got it Fro-do
September 5th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
I am so sorry that my one word ‘t—y’, used to make a point, caused such an uproar!
Now your souding like Remi.
September 11th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Hey, just curious - anyone on this blog currently attending Sunnyside Foursquare in Clackamas? Just curious how things are going over there since we departed several years ago in the huge explosion of abuse of leadership (which said leadership is still there!).
Thanks for the update.
September 12th, 2007 at 8:58 am
How funny — I grew up in Sunnyside Foursquare — from 5 to about 15. I left about 10 years ago so I think I missed everything that happened. That is sad.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
lol, I attended Sunnyside Foursquare for a while with a friend about two years ago. A little small for my taste. Hadn’t heard anything bad about the leadership or anything, but it wouldn’t be surprising. The messages weren’t that great, the pastor said a few things that stood out to me as false.
September 14th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Ted Haggard should have no problem finding secular work in marketing, public relations or political lobbying. He did all of these things on a grand scale while in the ministry. It is obvious from his past and present comments that His entire ministry has been a fraud and that he does not belong in the ministry. His most critical ministry need right now is to repent and be saved from the road to hell that he is now traveling.
September 15th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
“Ted Haggard should have no problem finding secular work in marketing, public relations or political lobbying. He did all of these things on a grand scale while in the ministry. It is obvious from his past and present comments that His entire ministry has been a fraud and that he does not belong in the ministry. His most critical ministry need right now is to repent and be saved from the road to hell that he is now traveling. ”
amen. I can’t believe this fool has The nerve to even show his face after what happened. NO HUMILITY!!!!
September 15th, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Yeah, he doesn’t even seem remorseful, it’s like, back on the payroll pleasssssssssse!! But Tom… you suck!
September 15th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Ted… you suck, not Tom… Tom is cool.