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Do long sermons make men hate church?
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Fair enough. I will no longer post on this blog.
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 13.06.2008 @ 08:42
jared
Sam wrote:
"What are you here for, Jared?"
I enjoy the talk, debate, reasoning and the challenge by some of what I have read."Clearly you are sold out to MFI - are you the web master for http://www.cowlitzvalley.org ? "
Heck no! I can almost barely figure this thing out. Actually I am the associate pastor."So I just drove through Castle Rock last Saturday, Jared. Had to laugh about the “big” MFI prosperity church founded there … CBC wannabe’s, eh?"
Ya, we have a wonderful building and property that is debt free. We met at the castle rock high school for ten years and built the building four years ago. Why dont you stop by sometime and we can mee?
Why was the reason that you would put my email? It clearly says
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 13.06.2008 @ 08:02
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"What house rules are you talking about?"
Why dont you answer the very easy question?"HMFMB?"
So what does this stand for?"Try this next time you “go to church”, HMFMB - stand up and testify - IF the church is following 1 Corinthians 14, the current speaker should yield to permit the Lord’s testimony … better yet, the next time the pastor calls for the tithe, why don’t you call him out for preaching false doctrine?"
1. Will we let everyone that wants to stand up and testify go ahead and do that? Is that what you suggest? Maybe they use 1 Cor 14:40 as a guide, ever thought of that?
Since you want to bring up 1 Cor 14. Should we follow 1 Cor 14:34-35 as well? I mean if we are going to let anyone that happens to make their way into the pews stand up and say what they want. We better keep those girls mouths shut? Dont you think?
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 12.06.2008 @ 20:49
"Perhaps we should examine those ‘places’, HMU. I don’t think we would find anyplace where the ushers stood as armed guards to the door of a dedicated preaching room, where the listeners were gagged by the house rules / traditions "
What house rules are you talking about?
"Likewise, sometimes that ‘preaching’ is not done before gathered crowds, but simple 1:1 … and sometimes that ‘preaching’ was no more than telling another that Jesus is the Son of God who was raised from the dead … not a sermon - rather, as one of the greek roots suggests, being a ‘town crier’ or ‘announcer’ of the good news. Preaching is ‘testifying’ and we all do that through the sharing of our testimony about Jesus"
sometimes it was people standing up and communicating to whole crowds or out in a boat speaking to the crowd or people gathering in a house and listending to what was being said. Jesus didnt just speak to people one on one. He spoke to crowds, groups, a few, one on one etc.
I agree that our testimoney is probably the most overlooked form of preaching.
"Who gave exclusive license to pastors to preach? "
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 12.06.2008 @ 09:21
Nobody..go preach. Who is stopping people from preaching? Are you suggesting that people should be able to walk into whatever church they want and preach?
"in fact, the current “pastor preaches the sermon” approach may not even be Biblical"
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 12.06.2008 @ 08:10
What about all the places in the NT where there was one person preaching to the whole crowds? Is that not a pastor or preacher preaching a sermon?
FF wrote:
"When I do ask them to church or something else it is out of relationship. if they say they are not interested it has no effect on how I treat our relationship. We are going to continue to play bball, meet for coffee, carpool our kids to sports or whatever our connection is because or relationship is built on more than me trying to convimce them of ##########."AWESOME!
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 07.06.2008 @ 12:23
"Serve others without preaching at them (they've heard it all before).
Serve others without inviting them to church (they've been there and found it to be a waste of time).
Serve others without saying "Well sir, Jesus is my Lord and Savior" 100 times (the more you say it, the less convincing it sounds).
Serve others even when they take advantage of you (don't stop at the poor and needy.)"
Overall I ahve to agree with you on this points. Well said. Couple of things I would like to add.
I have started to encounter a number of people who have no idea about Jesus, christianity, the church for that matter. I have been running into scores of young people and ########## have never been to a church and have no real opinion on christianity. This all started with me when I started doing in many aways what you just wrote. For the first time that I can remember in my 13 years as a christian I met someone out in the "world" just started being there friend and now there who family have been born again, water baptisied and added to the church. It all started when I started to pray "Lord show me those that you are working on" and He said "Get out amoung the people"....now I am praying for the next and so are they.
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 07.06.2008 @ 08:46
Ex-City Bible Slave wrote:
"You see this is where I completely disagree, and where many churches have missed the mark. How can it not all be on God? Why would Jesus go to the cross if we had anything to do with it? If we follow your logic, Jesus didn’t have to die"I see what you are saying. I think we agree on more things then we dont. Except for the way you spell "dog" that was a joke..so dont get upset!
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 30.05.2008 @ 12:00
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Salvation: nothing its all on Him. BUT, we do play a role in sanctification. Do you not agree?
Jesus when picking His disciples and in other places in ########### told people to forsake everything to follow Him. We hear this very little in the pulpits that I have been around.
I could and I am probably mixing up a bunch of stuff into one conversation!
Hahahaha... ex-City Bible Slave I am making my own stew!
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 30.05.2008 @ 11:57
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Wow. I liked that.
Comment Posted By Help Me Understand On 30.05.2008 @ 11:49
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